Friday, February 05, 2010

Another reason "Sola Scriptura" is bad for your spiritual health...


It's only sinful if you don't take pleasure in it

I don't think some readers know to click the "bright red" in my posts, which will connect them to the embedded link. Below is an excerpt of the article that I've linked to in the embedded bright red statement under the above picture.

This just in: Homosexuality has been discovered!

[Anglican Bishop] Gene Robinson was responding to a question about how he could reconcile his behavior with the exhortations of St. Paul to the Romans. No problem, the Anglican divine replied. St. Paul was "absolutely correct in his own context given what he knew." But the Apostle-- even with the inspiration of the Holy Spirit working in his favor-- couldn't possibly imagine that some men would lust after men. Which is odd, because that seems to be exactly what St. Paul wrote. But evidently the interpreters of the past 20 centuries have been missing something, because Robinson tells us: "It never occurred to anyone in ancient times that a certain minority of us would be born being affectionally oriented to people of the same sex."

This is exactly my point. SOLA SCRIPTURA, reading the bible for and by yourself, with no "higher authority" to interpret certain passages that might seem confusing to some, is why JESUS gave us HIS CHURCH, with Her teaching Authority, the Magisterium. The Catechism along WITH the bible, (given to us alsy by the RCC) is how JESUS intended His Church to learn and grow and mature in the ONE FAITH. ipso facto. Otherwise we end up with denom after denom making up the "rules" as they go along. Ending up in chaos and confusion...just exactly as the author of confusion, the enemy of our souls, Satan would have it. Now, tell me there's no need for a "higher authority" and that 'you and your bible alone' are led by the Holy Spirit into all Truth and I'll have to say that is a 'lie from the Evil One' that you've bought. Just like in the Garden of Eden, "you won't surely die" said the serpent to Eve. "you'll be like God." In other words when we make our SELVES our own "pope" we are in deep doo doo. Perilous and dangerous thinking and very prideful to be so presuming upon and cheapening God's grace. But maybe the homosexual prayed the sinner's prayer 40 years ago. He's "still saved" according to some in the "once saved always saved" camp. DANGEROUS GROUND. THIN ICE.

11 comments:

Garret said...

Hi Joyful,
Homosexuality is clearly condemned in the Bible, so anyone who practices it is being disobedient to God's word. That is not practicing sola Scriptura, it is disobedience.
God bless,
Garret

Joyful Catholic said...

But this bishop has interpreted the bible by himself. The RCC has always taught that homosexuality is an abomination. Not that the people aren't loved, but the practice is against God's natural law. Many other Protestant denoms are now "ok" with it, which is why Sola Scriptura is also wrong. Comes down to authority as always. God bless.

Joyful Catholic said...

Did you click the link? I forgot to ask you. The line is from a bishop from the Anglican church, not mine, not my belief and not that of the RCC, just to clarify. Ok?

Joyful Catholic said...

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Garret said...

Hi Joyful Catholic!
Yes I clicked the link and read the article, thanks.
Authority only works when it is paid attention to, given heed. This includes all of the links above this post bemoaning the Catholics who ignore the Church's clearly stated moral and religeous authority- it is disobedience, plain and simple- repent and embrace truth you would probably say, right? Certain people will bend and twist and distort to get their own way on moral issues, in order to not offend, or to legitimize their own 'lifestyles'. These Protestants, instead of being honest with the text of the Scripture, excuse it away by claiming that Paul wouldn't believe that anymore. The problem is- sola Scriptura does not claim that it is the opinion of people in the Scriptures (such as Paul), but is the unchanging will of God that is reflected there. No unbiased person who searched the Scriptures could come to the conclusion that God is okay with homosexual behavior, it does NOT work. Disobedience to the word of God, plain and simple.
God bless,
Garret

Joyful Catholic said...

Hey Garret, if I decided to 'agree' with you, that the RCC if off base, corrupted and wrong, and I want to leave it, what church should I go to here in Omaha, with about 500 to choose from in the phone (though I didn't count to get the exact number), but not counting the other Catholic parish churches in the Archdiocese, it's safe to say there are hundreds. Which one is 'right?' Should I just go to that's closest to me? Please answer. Thanks.

Joyful Catholic said...

Sorry about the typos above, typing on my laptop while in bed, easy to miss things. I'm not being facetious. What church/fellowship is the right one? They can't all be 'right' that's impossible so which is the right 'denom?'

Garret said...

Hi Joyful-
Well, your question has taken us off topic, but short answer, with no explanation provided- go here- http://www.gbcpapillion.org/
Back to the topic- the Bible never says anything neutral or positive about homosexuality- always very negative and condemning. So a question for you- If my above statement is true, (and I'm speaking of the sola Scriptura 'bishop' in the article) how could someone who allegedly believes the Bible is the very words and will of God merely excuse the clear condemnation away, and still claim with a straight face that they are in the will of God by embracing homosexuality? Logic dictates that they cannot, and are in disobedience to the word, the Bible. I don't think a more clear-cut example of disobedience could be offered!
God bless you,
Garret

Joyful Catholic said...

Re: topic - I see.

Re: "off topic." Why is GBC better and more "right" than Emmanuel Fellowship or Evangelical Bible Church? I have two friends (who left Trinity Interdenom. Church before and after we did)who go to those two places. I'm curious, too, as to why GBC believes Baptism is necessary as in "obligatory" stated on their website, when some Baptists don't even believe in baptism at all?

Garret said...

Hi Joyful,

Who are the baptists that don't believe in baptism? Do you mean the symbolic aspect of Baptism of believers- that it is not regenerative, but symbolic of our death in Christ? We know what Flannery O'Connor would say about that (:
It is not obedient or appropriate for a believer to reject baptism, as the Scripture is clear that we are to be baptized. This is the perspicuity of Scripture- THAT we are to be baptized is not up for dispute, and anyone who reads the Scripture can learn this. The details as to the efficacy of baptism and to whom it is done are the things disputed amongst various Christian 'denoms'.
God bless you,
Garret

Joyful Catholic said...

I'm w/ Flannery, as she is 'with' the Church on this one, she's correct.
http://www.dominicanfriars.org/2007/01/10/the-baptism-of-the-lord/

Do you believe the lies this FBC guy spews, Garret? How sad, if you do. On his site he says Catholics are taught to 'worship icons.' That is a bold-faced lie. No Catholic is 'taught' to 'worship' icons. This is what I mean about all the 5-10 or possibly 35,000 denoms/factions/split-offs that teach 'false doctrines' and traditions of mere men like Pastor Hansen- God love him. What a misguided, misinformed, misleading bunch they are!

This is appalling but also lets me know I in the ONE TRUE CHURCH CHRIST JESUS BUILT, for she is hated above and beyond all the other little "churchettes" springing up all over town.

Does your Baptist church ok women to be ordained? I guess some do and some don't. Or does it matter? Methodists have ordained women pastors now. My Grandmother would roll over in her grave!

http://www.fundamentalistbaptistchurch.org/ourpastor.htm

Thanks but no thanks FBC and GBC, too. I'm Catholic to my very Core, THANK GOD!

I'm leaving tomorrow on a private SILENT retreat at a Benedictine Retreat Center looking forward to being alone with Our Merciful Lord.

Have a great week and don't say I never gave you anything to masticate.

I've also given you plenty of time,Garret, sincerely hoping you'll 'come around' and at least humbly attempt to really LEARN what the RCC believes,teaches before bashing it with a 2x4 every chance you get.

She can take it, she's w/stood the onslaught for 2010 years now. I can take some of it, too, but there's a time to every purpose under heaven & a time to shake the dust off my "e-sandals" which I will do post haste if you agree with the likes of the FBC.

If you believe in those miserable lies spouted from Hansen and ilk, then "fare thee well" my friend.

May we meet in heaven one day, probably via Purgatory (unless you're already 100% perfected now. If that's the case, BOY HOWDY! Rock on! Pray for me and I'll pray for you.

Peace be with you.
JOYFUL - by His grace.

God bless.

http://www.christusrex.org/www1/CDHN/baptism.html

and here is more of what I and the Church believe:

http://www.catholicbible101.com/areyousaved.htm

http://www.catholicbible101.com/thouartpeter.htm